While I do agree with many points people have brought forward...Especially everyone who pointed out (or referenced toward) choosing the best frame of reference for each individual situation. To Eric and Ben... while I do not dispute your center of the universe, I wonder if it is a practical view point to take. I do, however, respectfully request the denial of Ben's right to negative comments in this activity, especially as they relate to religion. I agree with Brad on the term 'silly' and still maintain this stance in relation to 'irrational.' I may be both, but that isn't a good excuse. Back to physics...
I really appreciated Trevor's point about an ultimate frame of reference needing to be stationary. The center of the universe as discussed by both Eric and Ben would seem to fit the requirement, as the universe is expanding from said point. However, this perceived movement is from our frame of reference. For my last comment today, I really enjoyed Jen's comments on an ultimate frame of reference being all-inclusive of other frames.
I'm sure I contradicted myself, as I agreed with people advocating for both (or several) sides of this debate.
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